The pic above is the field by Cae Mawr farm where f-28 crashed .
Best i could get to the site of f-25 crash was off the stile by f-28 's crash site as the footpath on the map seem to have er gone missing ,f-25 fell in the field to the right of the farm of Pen-y-Foel's on the left in this pic !
Something will remain some where on such a big area but as it's farmed you would need permission from the farmers